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When? Started: 1993 Who? Started with staff and friends from U H S, Chester. Organiser: Martyn Harris We walk every Thursday and Saturdays, New Years day and May Day. How many walk? Walks take place as long as there are at least 2 wanting to walk on that day. More walk on a Thursday than on a Saturday. Most ever: 29. Numbers walking: 2-12, and usually about 8 mid-week and 3-4 on Saturday. Where do we walk? Saturday: Anywhere in North and Mid-Wales, Peak District, Shropshire and the Long Mynd and as far North as the Trough of Bowland. Thursday: Anywhere within about 40 miles of Chester. Type of walk: Distance: 6 – 14 miles. Climb: up to 4000’ (but usually very much less!). Those involved in 2016:- Martyn Harris, Fran Murphy, Sue and Michel Pelissier, Annie Hammond, Sue and Dave Pearson, Mike Dodd, David and Anne Savage, Celia de Mengle, Wendy and Ian Peers, Roger and Margaret Smith, Tim and Carol Dwyer, Paul Collinson, Phil Marsland, Sylvia and Dave Jenkins, Sheila McNee, Ed Meads.

Thursday, 25 August 2016

The Pen-y-Grog Mine and More from Carrog 25th August 2016

Our main objective for the day from Pont Carrog.
The Penarth or Corwen Mine near Pen-y-Grog in the Berwyns.
 The River Dee looking towards Corwen, where we first saw the Kingfisher.
The River Dee looking towards Carrog and the direction we last saw the Kingfisher.
Carrog from the path to the Penarth Mine.
Made it at last at the start of the Penarth Mine buildings.
Probably used for removing waste slate.
One of the old buildings at the Penarth Mine.
A Rowan well laden with berries.
A better picture of the Rowan berries.
Carrog from our lunch spot.
The Llantysilio Mountains from our lunch spot.
Heather on open moorland.
More Heather on open moorland.
What some of the  shooting fraternity think of our environment!
Even more evidence of a recent shoot.
Not what you would expect to see waiting on the platform at Carrog.
Walk stats: Distance: 6.1 miles. Climb: 1207'.
Time: 4 hours 54 minutes. On the move walking average: 1.8 m.p.h. Overall walk average: 1.6 m.p.h.
Group: Martyn and Phil.
A very select group today, if it gets ant smaller I'll be going solo!
We arrived at Carrog with a sort of mist hanging over the tops of the hills, a mist that never really cleared all day.
 We set off along the river and just before we crossed the railway track  we saw a Kingfisher, diving to catch a fish and then headed off heading towards Carrog. A good start for the bird count, but that was as good as it was going to get.
  We encountered our first problem where a very sturdy fence had been built across the normal path that we use. Later we came to the conclusion that the path had been diverted to the East of the cottage onto a new track that linked with the original path above the farm.
 The path heading to the Penarth Mine was a at a very pleasant gradient and gave really good views towards the Dee Valley and the Llantysilio Mountains. The views would be even better on a crisp clear day.
 Half way along this path, to our surprise we met a man descending with his dog, a huge Great Dane.  The dog's head came half way up my chest, and I'm sure if it turned it head upwards its nose would have touched my chin! Thankfully both the dog and owner were very friendly.
 We decided to have lunch just before trying to find the path that would lead us into the Carrog Plantation. There were plenty of suitable stones at this point on which we could sit while we had lunch. This must be the first time that we have been able to see our cars from our lunch spot, even though we were at a height of about 1100'.
 After lunch what route to take was going to be a challenge. We found that the path and entry point into the Carrog Plantation did not exist, so we decided to head for open moorland where we hoped to find another track that might lead us to where we wanted to be, but the route along the outer fence of the Carrog Planation became impassable and we ended retracing our steps to a new gate that lead into the plantation. Thankfully they had started to thin out the trees and we could see an obvious way ahed that should lead us to a forest track marked on the OS map. It did and we could relax that once aging we had a good firm wide track under our feet.
 Humidity at this point was again getting rather unpleasant, so we decided to take one of the forest tracks back to Llidiart y Parc.
 It was along this track that we came across lots of spent cartridges left at various points, often near marker posts. It is a pity those members of the shooting fraternity responsible couldn't take their litter with them when they went home. As well as being unsightly, these plastic and metal spent cartridge cases will take an awful long time to break down.
 Crossing the railway bridge at Carrog station, I was surprised to see about ten Barn swallows on the platform, but by the time I had focused  my camera there was only one left!
 We arrived back at the car, quite happy that hadn't been any longer, 6.1 miles and a climb of 1200' was enough on the day.
 Birds seen and heard today included: Kingfisher, Mallard, Barn swallow, House sparrow, Raven, Common buzzard, Mistle thrush, Carrion crow, Pied wagtail, Goldfinch, Woodpigeon and Common pheasant.
 After walk drinks were enjoyed when a got home, a few cups of tea went down well, but the first had a tot of whisky in it too!

Walks and Dates August 2016

Updated 4th August 2016.
I can't walk on Thursday 1st September, so I am hoping that everyone can walk on Wednesday 31st of August instead.
Thursday 4th August 2016.
The Afon Maes Valley.
Distance: 7-8 miles. Climb: 800'.
Start: Llanelidan. Grid ref: SJ108503. To get to the parking area, take the A494 Ruthin to Bala road, 2 miles after Pwllglas, turn left towards Llanelidan. Keep ahead at the crossroads as you enter the village, then go down a "No through road" past houses, telephone and a chapel to the end of the road where there is a parking area.
Leave Chester 9-00 a.m.
This walk is taken from Dave Berry's booklet "Walks in the vale of Clwyd." In the past we have always done this walk after having completed the Craig Adwy-wynt walk and have only completed it once before. On the last two occasions, it was on very warm days and we opted to head to a local hostelry for refreshments instead.
 I decided that the only way to complete this walk was to to actually make this the walk.
Dave Berry describes this walk as a splendid figure of eight walk exploring the beautiful unspoiled undulating countryside around Llanelidan.
Saturday 6th August 2016.
See notes below concerning Saturday Walks.
Thursday 11th August 2016.
Coed Ceunant and the River Clwyd with and extension to Rhewl.
If all goes to plan this could be the last walk that Annie can make with the group before she moves.
Distance: 8-10 miles; Climb:1000'.
Start: Ruthin riverside car park (Pay and display). Grid ref:SJ121582.
Leave Chester 9-0 a.m.
This walks from Dave Berry's book "Walks In the Vale of Clwyd" that we have done several times before, but not since 2009. In the past we have linked them with other walks that take the mileage to about 13 miles, more than most of us want these days. He describes the walk as  one exploring varied countryside, with excellent views and visits the charming ruins of a Medieval church using field paths and some delightful bridleways between Ruthin and Llanbeddr Dyffryn-Clwyd. It explores the attractive lower slopes of the Claudian's, including a lovely wooded area.
 The extension to Rhwl  follows the riverside path Northwards before heading towards Rhewl on quiet country lanes to Rhewl and back to the river where we again follow the riverside path, South to Ruthin.
Saturday 8th August 2016.
See notes below concerning Saturday Walks.
Thursday 18th August 2016.
Graig Fawr, and Coed yr Esgob from Prestayn.
Distance:9-10 miles; Climb:1500'.
Start: Prestatyn beach car park. Grid ref: SJ068840. There is a large car park by the toilet block, just before the beach car park. The last time we started at Barkby Beach, we used the Beach Hotel Car Park, tickets obtained from rececption. (cheaper than the Pay and Display car park by the toilet block.
Leave Chester at 9-00 a.m.
This is a walk that I have done many times before and always enjoy. The route uses the North Wales Path and Offa's Dyke path to link up with the walk from Dave Berry's book "Walks in the Clwydian Hills".
Saturday 20th August 2016.
See notes below concerning Saturday Walks.
Thursday 25th August 2016.
Owain Glyndwr's Mount, Nant Friddisel and the Pen y Grog Mines,
Distance: 6-7 miles. Climb: 1400'.
Start: Grid ref: SJ115437. Road side parking on B5437 on the South side of Pont Carrog.
This walk is a little shorter than usual, but takes in to account that route finding might be more difficult than usual. The main objective is to visit the Pen y Grog disused mines using a footpath that would be an extension to our normal walk which we last did in July, but having climbed Moel Fferna no-one has been very keen to extend the walk further. The call of the Grouse Inn might have had something to do with it!
 This route starts by heading alongside the river, before taking the paths that climb up to the mine. After retracing our steps the walk uses a path through the Carrog Plantation that we have used before and may take some finding. Having successfully negotiated our way through the forest and on to open moorland we then follow familiar paths towards Carrog-uchaf, but just before the farm we head back South in to the Carrog Plantation to contour on forest paths around Owain Glyndwr's Mount and finally descend to Llidiart y Park and along the B5437 back to Pont Carrog. 
Wednesday 31st August 2016.
Along the River Weaver, Kingsley and Around Frodsham.
Distance: 12 miles. Climb: 500'.
Start: Centre car park on the south side of the railway station.
Grid ref: SJ519779.
To get to the car park from Chester. Turn right at the traffic lights in the centre of Frodsham (traffic lights with the Bears Paw Pub on the left and the Golden Lion on the right). After a short distance turn left by the Helter Skelter Wine Bar. Follow the road round past a recycling centre to a large car park.
The distance given relates to the last time that we did the walk. I will probably look to see if the walk can easily be shortened by a couple of miles.

This walk is not taken from any book, so we will just following footpaths on the OS map. The initial part of the walk takes us through the north side of Frodsham, partly on the Eddisbury Way to the Weaver Navigation System. Here we will follow the riverside footpath for 3-4 miles. The Weaver is a good place to see water birds, so don't forget to bring your binoculars with you. After leaving the river we will take field paths to reach the village of Kingsley where we will follow the Eddisbury Way back to Frodsham.
Saturday 27th August 2016.
Llyn Caer Euni from Llanderfel.
Distance:9-10 miles. Climb:1600’
Start: Roadside parking by the stream in the village of Llanderfel. Grid ref:SH982371.
Leave Chester 8-15 a.m.
The described part of the walk is taken from Dave Berry’s book “Walks Around Y Bala and Penllyn”. This is only a 5 mile walk, but the extra miles is linking the start of the walk in Sarnau with Llanderfel, using different paths on the outward and return journeys.
The outward route will include using a path through the Nature Reserve Cors y Sarnau. There is a good chance of seeing Red kites in this area.

Saturday Walks August 2016.
On most dates in August 2014 and 2015 there have been not takers for Saturday walks. Consequently rather than planning walks for every Saturday and then cancelling them on most occasions, I have decided not to post any walks at the same time as posting Thursday Walks for the month.
 However, if you decide that you want to walk on a particular Saturday, let me know by the Thursday before and it may be possible to arrange one.

Thursday, 18 August 2016

Graig Fawr from Prestatyn Barkby Beach 18th August 2016

The start of Offa's Dyke Footpath at Prestatyn.
Looking towards Rhyl from the old railway line (North Wales Path).
Looking Northward down the old railway line (North Wales Path) South east of Meliden.
At the summit of Graig Fawr.
Graig fawr from near our lunch spot on Offa's Dyke Footpath.
A convenient bench and a few suitable stones provided a good lunch spot overlooking the golf course and the coast beyond.
Information board at Pant Fachwen.
Pant Fachwen with suitable perches for a lunch spot. if I remember.
Our final view of the coast from Offa's Dyke Footpath above Prestatyn Nature Reserve.
What can it be?
An unexpected piece of art work on the Hillside on the outskirts of Prestatyn.
Walk stats: Distance: 8.5 miles. Climb: 757'.
Time: 4 hours 41 minutes. On the move walking average: 2.2 m.p.h. Overall walk average: 1.8 m.p.h.
Group: Martyn, Celia, Wendy, Phil and Ed.
The weather was expected to be dry with temperatures just in the twenties, so we anticipated that it would be a pleasant day for walking. Overall it was, although at times it was rather humid. Progress along the old railway line (North Wales Path) was more rapid than our usual pace and we arrived at Graig Fawr a little too early. A little disappointing really as it had good views and a delightfully cooling breeze.
 It was unanimously decided to carry on and look for a suitable spot along the Offa's Dyke Path. after passing the old quarry we came across a bench that had good views towards the coast and decided this would be a good place to have lunch.
 Most of us had forgotten that the steepest part of the walk awaited us after we had passed the Coed y Esgob path.
 At the Northern end of Prestatyn Hillside Nature Reserve, a new car park had been created. possible a start point for walks in the future.
 The final section of Offa's dyke Footpath through Prestatyn town centre isn't the most exciting part of the path, but at least for us it was down hill.
 We arrived back at the car having had a good walk and glad once more to take of our boots allow the gentle sea breeze cool our toes!
 Birds seen ot heard today included: Common starling, Herring gull, Lesser black-backed gull, Black-headed gull, Woodpigeon, Common blackbird, Black-billed magpie, Common kestrel and Dunnock.
After walk drinks were enjoyed at the Blue Bell Inn at Halkyn, open thanks to them being able to use a generator. The power had been off for a few days.

Wednesday, 17 August 2016

Walks and Dates September 2016

Thursday 1st September 2016.
No walk.
I am unable to walk on the first , so the walk this week will now be on Wednesday 31st August 2016.
Saturday 3rd September 2016.
Y Bala and Beyond Llanfor.
Distance: 10-11 miles. Climb:1600'.
Start: Pont y Bala car park. Grid ref: SH929362.
Leave Chester at 08-00 a.m.past we have parked next to the football field.)
This walk uses two walks from Dave Berry's book"Walks Around Y Bala and Penlylyn". The main walk explores the varied countryside North of Bala, including the wild remote upland around Moel Emoel. The second walk allows us to explore Bala itself and discover some of its history.
Thursday 8th September 2016.
The Upper Ceiriog Valley.
Distance: 10 miles. Climb: 2000'.
Start:  The Pontricket Layby on the B4500 , about 3 miles South of Glyn Ceiriog. Grid ref: SJ186343.
Leave Chester at 09-00.
This is a walk from a layby suggested as a good start point by David S.
The walk starts by heading North on a minor lane to meet the Upper Ceiriog Way at Rhyd Caledwynt. The route then follows the Upper Ceiriog Way to Llanarmon Dyffryn-Ceiriog. Leaving  Llanarmon Dyffryn-Ceiriog using field paths to pick up the Upper Ceiriog Way again at Llidiart-cae-hir. The Upper Ceiriog Way is then followed to a track West of Cefn-y-braich that heads North back to our start.
There is no description for this walk, so it's back to basics and map reading.
Saturday 10th September 2016.
A Walk in the "Last of the Summer Wine" Territory.
Distance: 9-10 miles. Climb: 1000'.
Start: Crown Bottom Car Park on Huddersfield Road, Holmfirth. Grid ref: SE14250837.
Leave Chester at 08-00 a.m.
This is a walk taken from "Great Walks In Great Britain - The Peak District". This walk is described as being moderately strenuous exploring the Holmfirth Valley. Talking to a walking group from Holmfirth when they were staying in the Mill in Chester, they described their home patch as being a superb area in which to walk. That couple with the fact that I like the series based there, made me decide to put this walk on, even though it is a little further than we normally travel. It looks as though I'll be driving!
Thursday 15th September 2016.
Moel y Gaer, Moel Fammau and the Western Fringes.
Distance: 9 miles. Climb: 2000'.
Start: Car park at Bwlch Penbarras. Pay and display (£1 the last time we were there). Grid ref: SJ162606.
Leave Chester 9-00 a.m.
This walk combines two walks from Dave Berry's book "Walks on the Clwydian Hills". An opportunity to explore the Western slopes of Moel Fammau before climbing its summit. The return route uses the main path of Offa's Dyke back to Bwlch Penbarras.  An easy start, a stiff climb in the middle and a stroll back to the car. Plenty of opportunity for good views in all directions, if it is clear when we get to the Jubilee Tower.
Saturday 17th September 2016.
Cadair Idris.
Distance: 6-7 miles. Climb: 3150'.
Start. Minffordd Car park on the B4405 Tal-y-Llyn Road., near to its junction with the A487.
Leave Chester at 08-00 (maybe even earlier.)
This is the classic circuit of the Llyn Cau, climbing to the summit of Penygadair along the Minffordd Path and descending South from Mynydd Moel towards Nant Caenewydd.
It is anticipated that this will be a long day out and will onlt take place if the weather forecast is good.
Thursday 22nd September 2016.
A Ceiriog Trail North of Rhiwlas.
Distance: 10 miles. Climb: 2000'.
Start:  The Pontricket Layby on the B4500 , about 3 miles South of Glyn Ceiriog. Grid ref: SJ186343.
Leave Chester at 09-00.
This walk explores the Ceiriog Valley to the South and East of our start point at the Pontricket Layby. Only about a mile of this walk is on minor roads with most of the walk being on the Ceiriog Trail and a small section of the Upper Ceiriog Way. There is no description for this walk, so it's back to basics and map reading.
Saturday 24th September 2016.
The Roaches and Lud's Church.
Distance: 9 -10 miles. Climb: 2000'.
Start: Roadside parking below the Roaches North of Upper Hulme. Grid ref: SK004621.
Leave Chester at 8-00 a.m. 
This walk is taken from the Pathfinder Guide to the Peak District.  The Roaches has become one of our annual favourite walks, but this route is one that we have only done once before.  It includes the main Roaches ridge, and possibly Hen Cloud. The planned return route will be back along Black Brook. Can be boggy, especially on the lower route back from Lud's Church. Hopefully conditions underfoot will be better than the muddy experiences we have had on previous visits.
Thursday 29th September 2016.
Newton Mountain Forest, Cae-Llwyd and Ty Mawr Reservoirs.
Distance: 10 miles. Climb: 1000'.
Start: Lay-by near Bethlehem Chapel, Rhosllanerchrugog. Grid ref: SJ289468.
To get to the lay-by enter Rhos on the B5097 from the North.go past Ysgol y Grango, and just past the Coach and Horses pub turn right along Mountain Street. At the junction by the Sun Inn, turn left along Hall Street to find a lay-by by Llys-y-Mynydd and opposite Bethlehem Chapel.
Leave Chester at 09-00 a.m.
This walk combines another two walks from Dave Berry's book "Walks Around Ruabon Mountain, the Clyweog Valley and Hope Mountain". The walks explore the edges of Rhuabon Mountain and visits two of Rhosllanerchrugog's upland reservoirs.

Saturday, 13 August 2016

The Little Orme and Coed Gaer 13th August 2016

The Great Orme from the Little Orme.
At the tri point on Little Orme Head.
Llandudn and the Great Orme from Little Orme Head.
Pernrhyn Bay  and beyond from Creigiau Rhiwledyn.
Little Orme Head from Creigiau Rhiwledyn.
One of the Grey seals in Porth Dyniewaid.
The Little Orme from Mynydd Pant.
The Great Orme from Nant-y-Gamor.
Deganwy Castle from the path below the limestone cliffs  West of Coed Gaer.
Autumn colours already!
The Coastguard helicopter in the skies South of the Little Orme.
The Coastguard helicopter coming in to land on the field West of Crag-y-Don.
Walk stats: Distance: 7.5 miles. Climb: 1323'.
Time: 5 hours 7 minutes. On the move walking average: 1.9 m.p.h. Overall walk average: 1.5 m.p.h.
Group: Martyn and Celia.
This was almost the perfect weather for walking, pleasantly warm and no rain.  However the cool breeze when we were at the trig point on Little Orme meant that we didn't linger too long to watch the sailing event off shore at Crag-y-Don/Llandudno.
 While on Little Orme Head we were surprised to see how acrobatic some of the Great cormorants were as they manoeuvred in the Westerly wind.
 The next surprise came as we overlooked Porth Dyniewaid/Angel Bay and saw three Grey seals. A notice pointed out that the seals gave birth to their pups on the beach any time between September and January.
Lunch was taken on the small limestone outcrop of Mynydd Pant, where we sheltered on the Eastern side of the limestone pavement to keep out of the cool breeze.
 The coastal views and views towards Deganwy and Conwy we good, but the higher hills of Snowdonia had cloud lingering over the tops.
 The final surprise came as we went through Penrhyn Side and saw a Coastguard helicopter circling and eventually landing the field opposite the paddling pool. We thought that it may have been a training exercise, but in fact it was a full blown rescue of a women that was injured on the Little Orme.  This would explain why there was an ambulance with flashing lights and someone being taken into it on a stretcher.
 Birds seen or heard today included: Eurasian curlew, Rook, Oystecatcher, Herring gull, Stonechat, Common blackbird, Meadow pipit, Red-billed chough, Jackdaw, Fulmar, Common buzzard, Common kestrel, Shag and Great cormorant.
 Overall a very enjoyable walk, well worth celebrating with pint of Purple Moose's Cwrw Ysgawen at the Bluebell Inn at Halkyn on the way home. 
 It's a pity the cricket and CFCs day wasn't as good as ours!

Thursday, 11 August 2016

Coed Ceunant and the River Clwyd 11th August 2016

Heading for the hills, but not if it's still raining.
Inside St. Peter's Church, Llanbedr-Dyffryn-Clwyd.
St. Peter's Church, Llanbedr-Dyffryn-Clwyd from the lane leading to the village.
The original St. Peter's Church, Llanbedr-Dyffryn-Clwyd.
Sheltering in Coed Ceunant. Why?
This is why!
Lunch by the pond East of Coed Ceunant.
The delightful path on the North side of Coed Ceunant.
Is the Sun really shining?
On the bridge over the River Clwyd on the North side of Ruthin and the Sun is shining.
Walk stats: Distance: 9.5 milers. Climb: 675'.
Time: 5 hours 53 minutes. On the move walking average: 2.1 m.p.h. Overall walk average: 1.6 m.p.h
Group: Martyn, Roger, Sue and Dave P., David S., Celia, Wendy and Paul.
Approaching Ruthin, it was raining so much that we thought that we may not even start on the walk! However as we entered the car park the rain stopped, encouraging us to at least set off. Just after passing Ruthin School it started to rain and most of the group decided that it was time to put on waterproofs. It was at the second donning of waterproofs that Sue left her walking pole behind.
 The rain stopped and as we approached St. Peter's Church at Llanbedr-Dyffryn-Clwyd. It was good to see that the door was open and we could go inside tom loacate the 14th Century gravestone found in the old church.
 After visiting the old St. Peter's Church, we headed towards Llanbdr Hall and the rain started in earnest - full waterproofs were now essential, if you had them!
 Calls/moans about lunch were now being aired! Lunch was made later than necessary because the leader was talking too much and we went past the path we needed and had to retrace our steps, extending the walk by about half a mile.
 The one bonus was that Sun momentarily came out and we had superb views across the Vale of Clwyd towards Ruthin.
 Entering Coed Ceunant, we were hopeful that we might find a suitable spot for lunch, but ended up at the East end sitting on wet grass or standing by the a pond. It was at this point that the rain was at its heaviest and there were mutterings that the best option was to take the shortest route back to the car, At this point no comment was made, hoping that the weather would pick up by the time we had to make a decision about which path we should take. Thankfully the weather did pick up and we ended up doing the whole walk as planned. We noted that the path near Fron Goch had been diverted and a new bridle gate placed on the East side of the property.
 Once again the challenge was wet grass, lots of nettles,  and high humidity.
 Just before taking the path to the River Clwyd  down the access track to Greystones, we all removed our waterproofs, confident that we had seen the last of the rain.
 Even the riverside path challenged us with the root crop encroaching over the path, At least they didn't sting!
 We arrived back at Ruthin in warm sunshine, surprisingly with rucksacks that were dry. Our boots however weren't and at least one of the group had wet feet!
Birds seen ore heard today included: European robin, Mistle thrush (seen by Roger), House sparrow, Common blackbird, Woodpigeon, Carrion crow, Rook, Jackdaw, Common buzzard, House martin, Barn swallow, Pied wagtail, Grey wagtail and Goldfinch.
 We arrived back at the car, having had a good, nearly 10 miles walk, but there was still something missing -Annie! Hopefully the fortified fruit cake help to console people.
 After walk drinks were enjoyed at the Castle Hotel in the centre of Ruthin, where the Great Orme Brewery's Merlyn went down well as did a pint of Ruddles.
 We all hope that Annie's preparations went well and her move to Stamford goes smoothly.

Thursday, 4 August 2016

The Afon Maes Valley from Llaneidan 4th August 2016

Heading for the cricket ground at Llanelidan.
he modest pavilion at Llanelidan cricket ground. 
Time for elevenses, but too early for lunch.
"Don't ask".
The Afon Maes Valley from Pls-yr-Esgob.
Our lunch spot on the banks of Nant y Cwm.
More of the group at our lunch spot on the banks of Nant y Cwm.
Looking North east down Nant y Cwm with Cae Coed on the right.
Distant hills, but are they the Berwyns?
Llanelidan and the Afon Maes Valley ahead.
Walk stats: Distance: 8.2 miles. Climb: 995'.
Time: 5 hours 5 minutes. On the move walking average: 2.0 m.p.h. Overall walk average: 1.6 m.p.h.
Group: Martyn, David S., Wendy, Roger, Phil, Sue and Dave P.
We arrived at Llanelidan with the road to our usual spot blocked, so we set off to see if e could park near the church opposite the Leyland Arms. We asked the landlord who directed us to the area at the back of his stables where we could park which we gratefully did.
The forecast was for rain, probably around mid-day, but within five minutes of setting off we were encouraged to put on waterproofs. Thankfully it didn't last long and the few spots we did get before lunch weren't sufficient to worry us. 
 This walk did, as anticipated, challenged our route finding and our ability to locate paths that were very overgrown and some didn't even appear to be there at all!
 Another problem today was the odour coming from whatever treatment the farmer was spreading on fields nearby, a smell that we first thought must have been coming from an animal that had died! This accompanying smell kept us walking, even though some of the group were separate for lunch!
 However after passing Gwrych-bedw we located the path leading down to the Nant y Cwm where we were able to take advantage of fallen trees and boulders on which to perch as we enjoyed our lunches.
 Overall this was quite a roller coaster of a walk, and each time we gained height we had good views along the valley and towards the hills, particularly to North and to the North East. The distant hills were often in low cloud whilst we were in warm sunshine.
Birds seen or heard today included: Common buzzard, House martin, Barn swallow, European robin, carrion crow and Common blackbird.
 We all agreed that should we embark on this walk again in the future, we should make a few changes to avoid the worst of the problems encountered today.
 After walk drinks were enjoyed at the Glasfryn at Mold where Purple Moose's Snowdonia Ale went down well as did Old Moot's, summer Fruits Cider.